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Writers Corner / Re: Zines and Zine Making!
« on: June 21, 2022, 04:10:49 pm »
Saving those lol

I've been tempted to try to make a Zine for awhile but it probably wouldn't be something to sell, and would probably be along the lines of a digital zine or something like that.

I really don't know but given how much I bike around and like to explore around the cities I live near, I feel like I'd probably be a Pokemon trainer but would be too lazy to go for anything more ambitious and do competitions before managing whatever winnings I get to lay around for a month.

Since where I live is very swampy I feel as if I'd get like an Oddish, Mudkip, and Toxel to start and then later get a Mantine. I want to say I'd have a Porygon or Rotom but those might be too expensive in the Pokemon world.

Life on the Web / Re: Can a website be "useless"?
« on: June 21, 2022, 03:52:29 pm »
I've spoken about how some people use Neocities as a replacement to Carrd and using that to bring in internet discourse and how that's frustrating (no one wants to be browsing neocities and get hit with a dni that includes something they are), but I wouldn't say they need to delete their site and not make one but rather that they need to expand on it and be more creative. I don't think it's that they're boring but just that the internet has grown to really enforce this Carrd-like structure as a bio and the idea is that you want to be able to look at a person's business card and get as much information as you can about them.

This is kind of also why I'm all for trying to reduce the strain of trying to make a website perfect. The internet is this super over-competitive space for any kind of hobby or interest. When I introduce people to Neocities I say that they don't need to make it perfect and that a website can start as anything and be expanded on later.

Although most of these issues I recognize come from the modern internet and the mentalities that it generates. I don't feel people are uncreative and just that for most people, especially those who started using the internet after maybe 2008, don't have as much of a basis for what being creative with a website can be because everything has taken the slope to becoming more corporate and same and personal sites aren't the only things effected by this.

Those are just my thoughts though. I'm not sure how coherent they are since I'm a bit tired but hey it's the internet, a part of it is speaking your mind

Life on the Web / Re: What intresting old web lore do you know?
« on: May 27, 2022, 02:43:43 pm »
I know so much about the internet history of otherkin, therians, and systems.

This was a SUPER interesting read! I think the evolution of web based cultures and communities (Particularly when they evolve into alternative perceptions of identity) is one of the most interesting things of the last 50 years and I would never have known about these ones without this post. Id love to hear more!

Thank you! I don't really have too much else to say, but I'd recommend House of Chimera's website since they have a lot more archival of alterhuman history and documents about it written by them and others 

Oh thats super cool! Im doing a public talk soon to about websites, so Iv been preparing material as well. Iv got 2 objectives with my talk;
1. To introduce people to the idea of the web revival even if they have never heard or seen anything like it before.
2. To inspire people to get involved in it and take it seriously as a platform for art and a medium of art.

I think people like stories, so Im gonna try and weave a story based on my own philosophy and how I got into website making. Then I'm gonna mix that in with some fun examples of sites I made to keep it engaging. This is also partly why I wrote my website making guide, I wanted to clarify my ideas and get things really accessible for anyone hearing my talk; maybe there's a few things in there that would be helpful to you too.
I don't know any other systems personally, but Id sure like to see more of them around! So best of luck, Im sure you'll do great  :4u:

That's along the lines of what we were thinking too, along with the history and importance of websites in the past. A part of why we know so much that we do now is because people made websites documenting their experiences and what their thoughts were on community discourse at the time

We may include your site as a citation, thank you! Good luck to you too  :4u:

So the guys I share a body with are doing a panel for OtherCon about creating a website. It's more focused on it for nonhumans and systems, but I figured I'd ask if anyone has anything that might be a good idea to include. We could also use any web development or HTML guides and maybe website templates if anyone has any.

I haven't seen too many of us on here, but if you are alterhuman and you'd like to give us permission to use your website as an example for the panel, that would also be great.

Life on the Web / Re: What intresting old web lore do you know?
« on: May 26, 2022, 04:02:24 pm »
I know so much about the internet history of otherkin, therians, and systems.

For otherkin it heavily intersected with spiritual sites online in the early internet, and there was a lot more of an emphasis of your inner soul. Otherkin started with elves and fae in the 60s and those groups were big in the early internet too (fun fact, the word otherkin comes from "other" for non-elves and kind, as in humankind. The word was originally elfinkind and no one knows when the d was dropped or why), but dragons also were pretty big as a group although not always dragonkin and more of a separate dragconic subculture. The same goes for vampires.

Fictionkin started to be more of a thing in 2006 with otaku-kin, but existed prior to that point (the original elfinkind in the 60s were more speciifcally tolken elves, and there were a lot of pernese or other fictional dragonkin), but otaku-kin focused more on fictional character-based identities. They also overlapped more with soulbonding, which also involved an abnormal link to a fictional character, and so most early fictionkin groups were both fictionkin and soulbonding.

Therians started in a horror mailing list for werewolves where it became talking about real werewolves, people who identified as animals and the original word for it was were, but eventually became "therianthrope" based on "lycanthrope" to prevent confusion of physical shifting. Actually most terms came from trying to prevent confusion of physical shifting, theriotype as the word for what one identified as was originally phenotype and shifting where one gets into a mindset or experiences phantom limbs of their theriotype was originally shapeshifting. These terms would later join the kin community with kintype and general shifting.

The system community was kind of always a mess tbh. Like there was in-fighting and drama even back then, and some of that still exists today (system gatekeeping can be sourced to livejournal drama, the more popular systems in the community are also some of the worst people you'll ever meet, groups can be insanely toxic or abusive). But that aside making your own website for your system was a lot more popular, and systems would have sort of like walkthroughs or guides through their headspace which was extremely cool. Systems really used the internet for creativity in a way that was very unique, which is starting to come back I think.

Anyway that was my infodump

Well, depression, anxiety, PTSD, was probably the worst in middle and high school and needing to wake up early every morning and the added stress of failing our classes certainly didn't help and just made things a loop until we graduated. Feels like my system's life didn't actually start until we were 20.

Being a mostly independent adult is great though. I can cook what I want, buy what I want, use whatever coping mechanisms work for me in my own house, and I no longer have a hormonal hell brain that makes me want to fight with people on the internet and get involved in drama. Screw whatever people say to kids about being an adult being horrible, they probably aren't doing it right.

i certainly don't miss online games with paid memberships!! playing club penguin in 2013 was so sad if you weren't paying anything. later they added some non-member clothing items, but i wasn't playing anymore at that point. my parents once got the 15-day membership and i spent all my money in like a day  :(  and i had no idea about any cpps yet!

also, i don't miss overthinking excessively and obsessing over grades or just school in general. :P

Unfortunately this is still a thing with online games, Webkinz, the game where you already buy a plush to unlock full membership, of all things added a deluxe membership.

Waking up in the middle of the night to one of those tornado warnings on television. Do those still exist? Did they change that god awful sound? I still remember the feeling of being a 5 year old all alone in my room and about to cry because I was too scared to go up to the television and turn it off. The sound was scary!

Thank god I never lived anywhere with tornado warnings. Though, I always dreaded september every year because that's where all the hurricanes start hitting the east cost.

At least that taught me to keep my DS charged.

It's not a childhood fear since I still live where we get hurricanes, if anything its gotten slightly worse since I moved into an RV and still live next to a creek but hey at least I can just grab everything and pop over to my dad's house to wait it out.

That's also actually why I have a portable charger that I try to keep charged as much as I can. My hacked 2DS can't hold a charge for shit but that portable charger can last days. I've also gotten better at downloading videos for general preservation but it also serves good to keep me entertained :v

Forum Discussion / Re: When I visit the forum I...
« on: May 26, 2022, 03:42:28 pm »
I kind of just open each category that has a new post notification and see if there's anything interesting, I like to mark messages as read and it just kind of works out :v

    When was the last time you made a post / started a topic?
I try to do it every time I come in, which I think was a few days to a week ago. I haven't made a topic mostly since I don't know what to bring up, so I just vibe.

    Did people reply to you and were you happy with those replies?
I don't always get replies and I don't think I did, but I don't usually feel negative when I get a reply here and the environment feels chill enough that I don't feel worried.

    What inspired you to post or what stopped you from making a post recently?
This is making me want to make a thread pfft, but sometimes I do get intimidated since I feel like most people here really know technology and the internet and I'm still really a baby to the whole thing, but we all start somewhere so I try not to feel embarrassed if I need to ask questions or want to encourage my curiosity.

    Have you learned anything on the forum and/or do you find useful/good info here?
I can't think of anything off the top of my head but I know there are usually a lot of interesting posts here, I don't think I've learned anything but it's always cool to see more of the old net revival/internet reclamation.

    What's the main thing you visit the forum to see/do/say?
I really just come in to see what's new :4u:

Website Making / Re: Thoughts on credit
« on: May 15, 2022, 03:22:47 pm »
I started with using base codes that were free to use and on my first website when I modified it enough I just removed the original credit since aside from the grid layout it had nothing in common anymore. On my site I credited the gallery code I used but mostly since it was from a Codepen and I wanted to link back to it for people who might want to use it, I recommend people just use a website for their art all the time anyway lol

But I'll second Melooon on this, that was one of the reasons why I made an archive for old soulbonding sites on my own since while I wasn't really taking the code I was using them for inspiration

I've been re-listening to The Adventure Zone recently, but Wolf 359 is one I'd really recommend if you like story podcasts

I actually like user-run or curated ads most of the time, thinking like what Subeta has where I don't think they have traditional ads (I use adblock so i wouldn't know lmao) but users can buy ad space on the site. It can be a fun way to find new stuff and get your own stuff out there and that's how my system found some webcomics back in the day

Corporate ads I hate with a passion though

Website Making / Re: What web host do you use?
« on: May 01, 2022, 03:12:02 pm »
I got into web design with Neocities and I'll probably stick with it while it's still around. I think I had to make a Weebly once though for a class in middle school but I didn't really like using it

Website Making / Re: Does anyone have personal website pet peeves?
« on: May 01, 2022, 03:10:34 pm »
I don't care about design half the time but what does peeve me off are people who try to bring social media drama onto their personal sites

Music Room / Re: what are you listening to right now?
« on: March 28, 2022, 08:16:45 pm »
An Alternative Metal Rainbow Factory cover by SayMaxWell

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